Al Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #90 from P J Evans sees spam
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View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #88 from Tom Barclay
And now we get this example of your BATF in action: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-laos6jun06,0,5316421.story?coll=la-home-local Those who know Lt. Col. Jack (not me - I don't know Jack, as is...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #87 from albatross
#86 Lee: It seems like a lot of the intellectual support for the war came from people who knew a fair bit about the outside world, albeit seen through strong ideological filters. But the rank and file...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #86 from Lee
Charlie, #66: I'd just like to note in passing that foreign news coverage in the US media -- outside of specialist news magazines that focus on it as part of their main remit -- is dire. And right...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #85 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)
Mary Frances @ 28 but Wiser Heads in Washington realized that it was really a nasty powderkeg so we had to Do Something- Like light the fuse? Posted May 26, 2007 1:16 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #84 from Greg London
it's no shame for people to change their minds. Oh, no. That wasn't what I was getting at. I was more trying to straighten up the idea that "middle america" is somehow generically "confused", as if...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #83 from albatross
Greg 81: Fair enough. The thing I wanted to get across (which I think you agree with) is that it's no shame for people to change their minds. It's *especially* no shame for people to change their minds...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #82 from Greg London
So many people have come to doubt the reasons that they originally thought the war made sense, right? Isn't this about what you'd expect? Isn't responding to more evidence by updating your beliefs, and...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #81 from albatross
#76 Greg (and others): One thing to remember here is that most people don't try to analyze this stuff at great depth. That's reasonable, right? Not everyone finds this stuff interesting, or has any...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #80 from albatross
#70 PJ: Oh, given how things are going now, I imagine Bush wishes he could bring the troops home. Preferably with the big UNDO button. Just not in a way that acknowledges his responsibility for the...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #79 from Bruce Cohen, SpeakerToManagers
Charles Stross @ 65 I recognized the Iraq invasion was unjustifiable and likely to be a bloodbath before it happened, but the point at which I realized all was lost was shortly after the invasion I...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #78 from Bruce Cohen, SpeakerToManagers
albatross @ 56 There's a moral issue about how to deal with genuine humanitarian crises, like the mass murder going on now in Sudan, or the Rwandan genocide. It's far from clear that our intervention...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #77 from Greg London
Greg, I think the bifurcation is quite real. C'mon, does anyone remember the run-up to the war in 2003? Most of heartland America, most of the fence-sitters, were onboard. I don't know what the public...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #76 from Chaos
If I can go back to the world policeman thing, I have an observation. The US is often talked about as being the world policeman, and that's well and good. Almost everyone agrees that policemen are...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #75 from Serge
P J... I look on it as my vote cancelling his vote I much prefer your way of looking at it. Posted May 25, 2007 11:46 AM by Serge
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #74 from P J Evans
Serge, I look on it as my vote cancelling his vote. (It keeps me from going more insane. Now to find hearing protectors that block his conversation, such as it is ... this is, incidentally, the same...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #73 from meep!
"As in not based on “reality” as you and I understand the term." Well, duh!! -- they've made it *very* clear that they scorn the 'reality-based' community. Which actually brings up a thought I was...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #72 from Serge
P J... Don't you like the idea that your vote is cancelled by the vote of that commuter? Posted May 25, 2007 11:14 AM by Serge
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #71 from P J Evans
I had to listen to one of the low-information-voter commuters this morning saying that 'GW really wants to bring our brave boys and girls home from Iraq'. (I refrained from crossing the aisle and...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #70 from Dick Mulliken
A minor point: Zarqawi wasn't really part of Al Qaeda. He was merely a successful Jordanian thug whom Al Qaeda briefly blessed. A larger point: Al Qaeda's safe havens are in Munich, Birmingham, Tangier...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #69 from Meg Thornton
I can't have been the only person to notice: al-Libbi .... lose one l, one b... al-ibi... alibi If, in thirty years time, you discover that they were *that* obvious, I suspect the US will get its own...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #68 from DaveL
600 Arabic speakers. I wonder how many Arabic speakers there are in any non-Arabic-speaking country's foreign office. Arabic is not an easy language to learn. I tried, once upon a time, and all that's...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #67 from FungiFromYuggoth
PIPA has several years of US opinion polls archived, including polls taken from the runup to the Iraq war. A lot of their polls are interesting reading, including the one that indicated Bush voters...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #66 from Charlie Stross
I'd just like to note in passing that foreign news coverage in the US media -- outside of specialist news magazines that focus on it as part of their main remit -- is dire. The New York Times typically...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #65 from Adrian Bedford
PRV @63: It's these people from the interior, who truly believed that Iraq was a "terrorist threat", whom I believe have been cast into the greatest doubt on this subject. Lots of them really do not...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #64 from PublicRadioVet
Greg, I think the bifurcation is quite real. C'mon, does anyone remember the run-up to the war in 2003? Most of heartland America, most of the fence-sitters, were onboard. You had a scattering of...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #63 from Greg London
I contend that our current foreign policy is clearly not improving our "position" viz a viz any damn thing Not so fast, you have to admit that the war on the environment is going quite well, all...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #62 from Lizzy L
Greg at 60, thank you. You said what I intended to say. Albatross at 56, I contend that our current foreign policy is clearly not improving our "position" viz a viz any damn thing: security, peace,...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #61 from Greg London
I'm not talking about dedicated anti-war people. I am talking about the middle Americans who might have supported Bush at first You know, the tendancy you have to bifurcate people into "middle...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #60 from PublicRadioVet
Greg, I'm not talking about dedicated anti-war people. I am talking about the middle Americans who might have supported Bush at first, but now find their enthusiasm waning because they don't get why...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #59 from abi
PRV, Re the other thread: look at it this way. It's like the twentieth "Pacifism is cool! you wear a uniform so I hate you" 18 year old kid comes up and spouts his views at you. Your reaction to him is...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #58 from Greg London
PRV@41:it seems to me a growing number of Americans WANT isolationism. They don't understand why we're in Iraq Wow. You just insulted the intelligence of everyone who opposes the war in Iraq in one...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #57 from albatross
If isolationism means closing the borders to trade and immigration, withdrawing from the world, etc., then it's pretty obviously a bad idea. But PRV's original question was about the extent to which we...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #56 from PublicRadioVet
PJ, I had forgotten about the constitutional strictures placed on the Japanese armed forces following WW2. And regarding the other thread, thanks for the heads up. I was trying very hard to figure out...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #55 from abi
Japan spent a lot of time being poor to pay for its economic leverage. Remember when "Made in Japan" meant shoddy and cheap? The US has a lot of economic leverage without its military, but it's been...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #54 from Fragano Ledgister
Charlie #46, Abi #48, Lori #45: The US has never been isolationist. Any claims that it has are pure myth. The US has historically been uninvolved in Europe, but that's largely because it was heavily...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #53 from P J Evans
PRV @ 50 The Japanese constitution forbids it, explicitly. They had a big debate about what they should do in Iraq, and it basically boiled down to non-combat support. Oh, on the other thread: she...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #52 from Stefan Jones
#50 "Can there be military isolationism without economic isolationism?" That's a good differentiation. Posted May 24, 2007 5:30 PM by Stefan Jones
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #51 from PublicRadioVet
Can there be military isolationism without economic isolationism? Seems the Japanese mastered military isolationism and economic proliferation at the same time. Next to the U.S. they are the world's...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #50 from P J Evans
abi @ 48 The isolationists will go even more nuts without their imported everything-but-the-kitchen-sink. I'm not sure they actually read the labels on the stuff they're buying. They just want cheap...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #49 from abi
Lori @45: Is the US going isolationist a bad thing? It's an impossible thing. Even if the US pulled all of its troops home, it would still be deeply enmeshed in the rest of the world. It's the world's...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #48 from Lizzy L
The opposite of what our current administration calls foreign policy -- i.e. unilateral militarism, refusal to engage in diplomacy, and allowing corporations run by their friends to loot the American...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #47 from Charlie Stross
Lori: not necessarily. Thing is, back in the nineteen-teens, the standard political model for running a country was authoritarian (monarchy or dictatorship), and the standard goal for successful...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #46 from Lori Coulson
Ok -- I'm going to play devil's advocate: Is the US going isolationist a bad thing? (Considering the dog's breakfast the current Maladmnistration has made of foreign relations, perhaps refocusing on...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #45 from P J Evans
>But Charlie, it seems to me a growing number of Americans WANT isolationism. >Or perhaps not so much. Perhaps a growing number of Americans are looking at the Project for the New American...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #44 from James D. Macdonald
But Charlie, it seems to me a growing number of Americans WANT isolationism. Or perhaps not so much. Perhaps a growing number of Americans are looking at the Project for the New American Century and...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #43 from Charlie Stross
PublicRadioVet: starting from the basics, the reason isolationism won't fly is that, like it or not, the USA is the 400lb gorilla in the global economy. You're deeply dependent on imports of strategic...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #42 from Fragano Ledgister
Charlie Stross #39: Yes indeed, and, at the same time, Churchill was saying something about not having become His Majesty's first minister in order to preside over the dissolution of the British...
View ArticleAl Qaeda in Iraq? -- comment #41 from PublicRadioVet
But Charlie, it seems to me a growing number of Americans WANT isolationism. They don't understand why we're in Iraq, why we keep troops in Europe, why we spend all this money to have such a large and...
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